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Over the years, I have heard of a number of funny or quirky or touching or maybe even simple but interesting stories from fans that had occasion to be with Jimmy when he did or said something that displayed his charm.  That's what this page is all about.

 

From Dean Adshead I've been a BREAD fan since I was nine (1997) after first hearing a cassette of "The Sound of Bread".

I started to use the internet and began to socialise with Bread fan across the world on the guestbook on The Bread Fans website, one of the fans I talked to was David Crawt who I spent many hours chatting to online about Bread. As a musician myself, I set up my own website with a guestbook and I was overjoyed to discover that one day, the one and only James Griffin had signed it thanks to David Crawt letting him know of me.

Shortly after that, me and James began exchanging emails with each other chatting mostly about music, I have saved these emails, a lot of which are quite interesting in terms of facts. I remember I sent him one email asking him what he was up to, his reply was, "About 185 lbs. How about you?", Of course I meant in musical terms.

The best memory I have of him was when he gave me his phone number and I called him for a chat, when he answered, he must of forgot I was calling and his first word was a very lazy sounding "Hello", after I reminded him it was me he greeted me again, much more friendlier, we chatted about various things. I told him I was quite nervous talking to JAMES GRIFFIN on the phone, he reassured me he was no different to anyone else. I told James I saw David earlier on in the year and his reply was a very blunt "Oh - he really oughta retire..." followed shortly afterwards by a "He oughta take a pill", both of these comments I found hilarious, we both agreed however that David is an outstanding talent and James commented that one of his favourite tracks by David is "She Was My Lady".  Me and James also agreed that "Manna" is our favourite BREAD album.

I proceeded to tell him about my nerves when playing live to an audience, he told me that if you're fully organised, you can never be nervous, I've never forgotten this advice and I have also never been nervous since!

One of the highlights of the phone call was when I was asking him which singer was singing which songs in The Remingtons and while telling me this he also sung a line of each song he was giving an example of. I was in disbelief at first that James Griffin was singing to me, on the phone with that legendary voice of his.

 I was deeply saddened to hear of James' passing, I was aware of his illness and it did look positive until the news arrived that he had died.

I will miss him not only as a musician, but as a friend.

From Fran Hart

Just prior to the Bread reunion kick-off shows in Atlantic City, Jimmy invited me up to his hotel room to hang out for a while.  When we got in the elevator, he started singing "You're So Vain" by Carly Simon.  He told me that he thought it was a terrible song and that basically her career was never the same after that song.  The elevator stops and a woman gets on, while he's still singing the song.  He stops and asks her, "Do you like that song?"  I don't remember what her response was, but I thought it was pretty cool of him to ask her.  I'm sure she had no idea who Jimmy was, and that made it an even bigger kick for me.

From Fran Hart

 

Related to the above anecdote, we get to his room and, at that time, he was just getting interested in the Internet.  He had asked me to bring some stuff with me to show how he might use the Internet to catalog his songs, and maybe market them to film-makers and other artists who might be interested.  I created a sample website for him on my laptop and brought that to the room, to illustrate some of my ideas as to what he might do.  I used one of his songs from the "Lost Without Your Love" LP, "Today's The First Day" as a sample song.  As he listened to it, he said  that he'd like to re-record that, because the vocals shouldn't have been so staccato.  (Short, crisp, almost cut-off words.)  He wished he had done it in a more flowing manner, and he proceeded to sing it the way he wished it was.  It was about as close as you could get to watching him create, outside of a studio.  It was a memorable little moment and a great one to recall.

From Lisa Formica

Hi Fran,
 
Merrillville, Indiana (a.k.a. the Chicago leg of the Bread reunion tour) August 1997 at the Star Theater.  After the show, Jon Boba, myself, Richard Shupe and Manual Alayon went to the bar at the hotel next door for a drink and to talk about the show we just saw. We were keeping an eye peeled just in case one of the guys should happen to stop in. No sooner had we found a table, but Jimmy walked in, he saw us, and came over.  I believe Jon bought him a drink.  Anyway, we were chatting for a while, having a great time when 3 young ladies who were standing over in the corner kept moving closer, and closer to our table, pointing and giggling.  Jimmy was getting more and more nervous the closer they got. Then one of them said something like 'It IS James Griffin' and that's all it took.  Jimmy said "gotta go" and ran out of the bar so fast we didn't even get to say goodbye!

 

From Lisa Formica

Hi Fran,
1992 Remington's show at Toolies Country in Phoenix.  After the show, Jimmy comes over to say hello to me, since I was front row center all night.  He takes one look at my friend Theresa who came with me, and started speaking Spanish to her at an incredible rate.  After he is done with what he was saying, Theresa said "I'm so sorry, but I don't speak Spanish".  To that, Jimmy replied, "Oh, I thought you were my ex-wife! You look exactly like her!"  Theresa said, ' I wish I was, but it's very nice to meet you anyway!"
 

 

From Fran Hart

A few years ago, Jimmy performed at the 'Rock with the Jocks' charity concert here in Boston.  It was a night of music and athletes, with members of the Boston Celtics hanging out and signing autographs.  Jimmy performed with Terry Sylvester (Hollies), Don Brewer (Grand Funk Railroad), Bill Kelly (The Buoys) and Jim Della Croce (manager of The Remingtons).  They played a set of hits from each group.  I got to hang out with Jim and met Terry and Don after the show.  After a while, Jimmy seemed to be a little restless and he asked, "Do you have a car here?"  I said "Yep - in the garage."  He said, "Let's go then!"  So we hopped into my truck and drove back to his hotel.  All the while I'm thinking, "I'm driving James Griffin around Boston!"  If that wasn't enough, when we got to the hotel, he invited me to dinner.  Bill Kelly joined us and we spent a great time talking about all kinds of things.

From Jon Boba

Ever since I discovered Ebay in the late '90's I have had the distracting (and at times expensive!) habit of conducting various searches for hard to find treasures of various type.  No quest however was greater that the search for the ever elusive LP "James Griffin", the European-only release from our hero James.  Fran Hart several years earlier had been kind enough to make me a cassette of the LP from his own LP, but I desperately longed for my own copy of the vinyl.  Imagine my shock and surprise when I found during one random search, not merely the LP, but a post proclaiming that they had a new, still sealed "Canadian release only" CD of James' 2nd self-titled LP "James Griffin" from the never heard of before or since "Starborne Records".  ( At this point, I must admit that, although I have heard and even own a random Beatle bootleg CD, I had no idea at the time that the Griffin CD was an illegitimate release - - all I knew was that this was a chance to grab a hopefully pristine copy of one of the great lost LP's of our time.  I do not support the purchasing of bootlegs at the artists expense under any circumstances - enough of my preaching - now back to our story - hang with me - it gets really good!). 
 
After paying an arm and a leg (around $80!!!) for the disc I sent payment and shortly thereafter received this reply from the seller:
 
Jonathan,
I got your payment and everything is great - your cd has shipped.  This is the odd part.  I gave James Griffin your e-mail address.  He had no clue this disc existed I think.  I told him if there was a possibility of him borrowing the disc from you - he should be inclined returning something signed when you get it back - if you will do it...
Sincerely, XXXX
 
The seller later claimed to have bought the CD at a record/CD fair in Canada and only had the one copy.  Apparently James and his friend/music distributor Joey Stec of Sonic Past Music had also been on a futile quest for a better copy of the LP. They had promised a record company a clean master from Polydor, but Polydor had "lost" the master tapes from the album session!!! As a result they were forced to make due with 25+ yr old copies of the vinyl itself to create the best template to ultimately remaster to CD.  How Polydor could lose an entire album is a topic for another day, but you can only imagine how frustrating this must have been for James!
 
Later that day, I received the following e-mail from our friend:
 
Hello Jonathan,
XXXX gave my your email address.  She told me you purchased the above last week on Ebay.  I wonder if you would be interested in my autographing your CD.  I have been looking for a copy of this for a while with no luck and would like to make a copy of yours, if you don't mind.  I will then ship it back to you with a photo etc...
 
All the best,
James Griffin
 
I was out of town when this round of emails were sent - - returning June 6th, I also had the following email in my In box:
 
Jonathan:
 
My name is Joey Stec...I am the owner of sonic past music.  We have recently released a reissue of James Griffin "Breakin Up Is Easy" and we are now trying to put out the album "James Griffin" and have had very bad luck finding a vinyl copy that is clean enough to copy and process...James informed me that he wrote you an email asking if the CD copy that you bought from Ebay is clean?? Can you help us out here and let us know what condition your copy is in??? We need to get track 3 and 7... and if your CD was made from a fresh vinyl we would like to copy it if at all possible...Jimmy will be very grateful, please assist us as we truly can use your help...
 
Regards
 
Joey Stec
 
 
Joey also left me his number - I called him to let him know I felt the CD was truly pressed from a new vinyl and that I would be more than willing to cooperate. I also emailed James back & later spoke with him, renewing our acquaintances (see Lisa F's posts below for context..) My initial email to James was as follows:
 
 
Hi James!
 
It was great to hear from you!  I'm not sure if you remember, but I am Jon Boba, your self-proclaimed "#1 fan in Chicago".  When Bread reformed & toured in '96-'97, I had the privilege of seeing multiple shows in Atlantic City, Las Vegas and at the Star Plaza in Indiana (near Chicago).  I was thrilled to actually meet you backstage & tell you how much I appreciated you and your music!  We even traded emails a few times when we both had different email addresses.  I was imploring you to put out "Just Say When" on your next album!
 
...of course I would be willing to send you the CD & will mail it to you right away...I have a picture of the two of us together from Vegas - maybe you could sign it in lieu of $$  :-)     The CD sounds great & when you hear the strings first come in on Laura Lee in the intro over the acoustic guitar it sends chills!!! So Good!!!!
 
Thanks for the wonderful legacy of beautiful music expertly played.  I hope to see you live again soon to enjoy your music.
 
All The Very Best -
 
Jon
 
James supplied me with his home address and # etc and responded as follows:
 
Jonathan,
 
I do remember meeting you!  Small world.  Thanks Jon.  The CD won't be available until I get a clean copy.  That's why I need a copy.  If you can send me one along with the photo to sign, I'd appreciate it.  I tried to extract it from my vinyl unsuccessfully.  I'd like to see the label copy of the one you have as I don't think it was licensed.  I understand it was out of Canada.  Is this correct?
 
Many thanks -
 
James
 
 
Needless to say, the opportunity to help out one of your hero's is a very rare opportunity indeed.  I could imagine Breadheads from around the world finally enjoying "James Griffin" in cleaned up, sonic glory largely due to this opportunistic exchange...
 
Unfortunately, the "happy ending" was not to be.  Despite sounding cleaner than anything they had to date, I received the following update from James 2 months later:
 
...the one you sent from which we tried to use Laura Lee was not accepted by the Japanese label Dreamsville.  They are still trying to get the original master from Polydor.  I'll keep you informed...
James
 
 
Our correspondence grew more sporadic over time as I did not wish to act like a pest about updates etc.  It was quite clear that this whole episode was viewed as beyond frustrating for our talented friend that had known, for all his success, his share of frustrations.  That Polydor has somehow misplaced or lost the master tapes of a Grammy award winning artist is inexcusable and mind boggling to me. 
 
A recent email dialog between me to James' friend and CD distributor Joey Stec let me know that there is still a chance the CD may see the light of day, but the odds don't appear great - Joey also has 15 or so demo's from James and some country/r & b tunes that he hopes to release in the near future.  We can only hope!
 
 
Anyway - that's my long and bittersweet Ebay & James story.  We miss him and cherish his legacy and can always be comforted by the beautiful music we can savor again and again -
 
All the best to the fans & thank you Fran for your fine efforts in keeping the spirit of James/Bread alive!
 
 
All My Best!
 
Jon
 
   

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